Season 4 – Episode 1 – Preview

Episode  – “Love Thy Neighbour”

Synopsis: Amaar is panicked to learn the new minister replacing Magee wants the Muslims out of his church. It’s only when Reverend Thorne learns his congregants like having the Muslims around that he backs off. Meanwhile, Rayyan would be fine with moving on after being abandoned at the altar, except for all the gossip that reminds her endlessly.

Airing Monday September  28th 2009 !

What will the new Reverend be like? How will he get along with everyone? How will Rayyan be handling her predicament?

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34 responses to “Season 4 – Episode 1 – Preview

  1. Steve

    I liked the whole Rayyan thing.

    Her going out over the air and everyone hearing her, especially at Fatima’s means that indeed Fred has a popular radio program. Even Fatima listens (though she claims she doesn’t).

    RACISM SAVES THE DAY.

    Found that part of the show quite interesting.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bric-a-brac

    The term bric-à-brac (origin French)[1] was first used in the Victorian era.
    It referred then to collections of curios such as elaborately decorated teacups and small vases, feathers, wax flowers under glass domes, eggshells, statuettes, painted miniatures or photographs, and so on. Bric-à-brac was used as ornament on mantelpieces, tables, and shelves, or displayed in curio cabinets. Sometimes these cabinets had glass doors, to display the items within while protecting them from dust.

  2. Steve

    I have a question.

    Amaar goes and here’s Throne’s sermon.

    Now that is okay, at least from the Christian perspective as from what I understand Christians do allow visitors at their worship. Even non-Christian visitors though it would be impolite to come late (though this time since Amaar could slip in practically unnoticed it didn’t disturb what was going on so that’s okay).

    But Thorne couldn’t sit in on a Muslim Worship service, right? That’s not permitted in Islam, right? Not that Thorne would ever want to but I was thinking of Zack Whitman, a character that is to appear in later episodes. I would think that he might want to visit a Muslim Worship service as part of a story he night want to do.

    http://www.thestar.com/living/article/686385

    • But Thorne couldn’t sit in on a Muslim Worship service, right? That’s not permitted in Islam, right?

      No and no. For jumu’ah, the Friday noon congregational prayer, a non-Muslim would probably not be able to sit in at that time at most mosques worldwide, not because it’s “forbidden,” but simply because there would be no space for them. At virtually every mosque I have been to for jumu’ah around the world, jumu’ah is almost always standing room only. The mosque I currently attend for jumu’ah can seat several thousand people and yet still has several hundred Muslims praying outside in the courtyard out front every week.

      At the other 34 prayers conducted during the week, there’s normally plenty of room. Most mosques would probably allow a non-Muslim to observe if he or she is escorted and they sit in the back of the prayer hall, following all the other rules that are observed (e.g., no shoes, modest clothing). Many mosques have tours and/or open houses, and non-Muslims frequently get to observe the regularly-scheduled prayer at that time.

    • MarriedaMuslim

      Actually a good friend of mine attended prayer on a Friday with my husband, and he was non-muslim. He had to do some ritualized cleansing before he went, but it didn’t cause a problem. Just so you know he did this while we were in Jordan, not here in US.

  3. Steve

    I meant hears Thorns sermon.

    We finally know how many people attend a Mercy Anglican service don’t we.

    Obviously the was a problem when it came to McGee. He was a burnout.

    Perhaps Thorn can do better. Sure there’s some negative qualities about him which the show will exploit for comedic effect but there’s also some stuff that I believe makes him superior to Magee if the show will just let that part come out.

  4. Gary

    Auzzy might be a cool kid but I believe his character is going to fall flat.

    An actor can only do so much with what he is given.

    His character is poorly designed from the start. They already tried Nate and that obviously failed. Making Nate a high school student isn’t going to make it succeed.

    Auzzy’s career has taken a wrong turn here.

    Yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting how Mrs. Wispinski ‘s Bric-a-brac Racism saved the Muslims from being booted out.

    But I didn’t think Thorne had to go as far as giving back Amaar’s office. It would have made more sense if he kept the office and Amaar having a smaller office could have been used for comedic effect in later episodes.

  5. Nahida

    What was Amaar telling that lady her husband didn’t have to go to church for? He would never tell a Muslim man he didn’t have to attend prayers at the mosque! …Unless he would, in which case, he should get some things straight.

  6. Steve

    It will be interesting to see how the Zack Whitman character plays itself out. I have already called him Zack Whitless.

    Perhaps he will be different than what I think he will be but they called him a “Nosy” student reporter. I just don’t know how that is going to work since there is really nothing to be Nosy about. This isn’t a show with “secrets” and that is the only way such a character keeps from bring just plan annoying.

    I see him as the ultimate bric-a-brac racist. But since he hasn’t been even in one episode perhaps that isn’t how they wrote the character.

    I am glad that they are bringing of the theme of bric-a-brac or “some of my best friends are…” racism. Such racism doesn’t seem to be harmful but at least in America it could become catastrophic.

    I wonder sometimes if the writers even understand their own subconscious and why they might write certain things into their stories. Bringing up bric-a-brac racism seems very important and relevant given the times we are in.

    Of course this time bric-a-brac racism seemed to have had a positive effect. At least from the perspective of the viewer. Perhaps that reveals a lot more about the character of the writers than they thought as well.

  7. Steve

    Nahida I have a question regarding the last scene.

    From a Christian perspective I believe we have no problem with non-Christians sitting in on a Christian mass.

    But as a Muslim from his perspective does Islam allow a Muslim to sit-in on a Christian mass?

    And am I right that Thorne couldn’t sit in on a Muslim service? Or any other non-Muslim, right?

  8. Nahida

    From what I know, Islam says nothing against it.

    And there have been several occasions in which non-Muslims have sat in on services at our mosque.

  9. Steve

    Thanks JDsg.

    I was wondering about that when I was thinking about how I imagined Zack Whitman would talk to Layla.

    Zack Whitman is supposed to be in the 3rd episode of this season so we will have to see if his character is really like how I imagined it.

    But I have to say Thorne is practically like I imagined he would be. Hopefully that other stuff I imagined about him won’t be incorporated into the character though it would make the show “edgy”.

    By the way, Whitman. Add an “e” and you get Whiteman. I thought the days of attacking white people were over when they de-rednecked Joe. But with the character of Mrs. Wispinski it’s back at it again. By the way replace the “I” with an “A” and you get Mrs WASPinski.

    WASP stands for white anglo-saxon protestant.

  10. Steve

    Thanks Nahida.

    I did read that there are Mosques that forbid non Muslims from even setting foot but of course they are mostly in countries where Islam is the state religion.

    But it does seem that since they have turned that room into a Mosque they can’t use it for youth plays any more. Of course as Amaar said first they are going to have to find a youth, but I could see why Thorne would be upset that he didn’t have that capacity any more since of course he is looking to the future and he isn’t burned out like Magee was so he does envision a church full of active Christians again.

    Perhaps a pipe dream but still I think that’s a perspective that someone in his position should have. In many ways he does remind me of Amaar.

  11. Steve

    Except of course Amaar is part of a rising religion in his society where as Thorne is part of a declining one. At least the Anglican version of Christianity is on the decline. I have looked at the figures and there are some forms of Christianity on the increase within Canada although of course except for immigrants religion in general is on a decline in Canadian society.

  12. Nahida

    “…but of course they are mostly in countries where Islam is the state religion.”

    I doubt it’s the fact that Islam is the state religion that has anything to do with how they treat people in those countries.

    … except for all the gossip that reminds her endlessly.

    Ugh, so typical. Why do people insist on making things so much worse with their unholy gossip.

  13. Steve

    I think it is important not to confuse the decline in Anglicanism in Canada with the decline with Christianity. Indeed, except for immigrants religion as a whole is on the decline in Canada, but you do see within the decline some revival in some forms of Christianity. Specifically Canadian Evangelicalism.

    Rev Thorne would have a much easier time of it if he was an Evangelical than he does as an Anglican. As an Anglican he might be fighting a losing cause. He might just be left with “rearranging chairs on the Titanic”.

  14. Steve

    Leaving Canadian Evangelicalism out of the picture as they do in Little Mosque on the Prairie loses some of the complicity that exists.

    It makes it look simply as Islam up/Christianity down.

    Here’s figures from 2003.

    A sharp rise in evangelical numbers coincided with a drop in mainline churches. The United, Anglican and especially the Presbyterian churches all experienced significant declines in their memberships. Membership in the United Church declined 8.2 percent, and the number of Anglicans dropped by 7 percent. But the most dramatic decline was 35 percent among Presbyterians.

    The number of Christians who identified themselves as apostolic, born-again or evangelical shot up an astonishing 121 percent, however.

    So, yeah there’s a decline. And indeed there’s a decline in religion in general. But Thorne’s “enemy” if you are going to call it that isn’t Amaar and the Muslims… I mean it isn’t like he is losing many of his people to them…Thorne is losing people first to secularism of course but also to evangelicalism.

    So, it’s really not a Muslim vs Christian thing. At least not in Canada. It is a thing where the mainline church is losing out to evangelicals. And it’s a thing where religion in general isn’t as important for native born Canadians as it was in prior generations.

    So, it isn’t a competition in a sense with Amaar and Thorne. Thorne’s competition is the religious leader in evangelical church that surely would exist in a town like what Mercy is supposed to be. Well at least within an hour and a half drive from Mercy.

    Perhaps that is an additional reoccurring character that they should add to the show.

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  16. Steve

    Nahida,

    You make a good point about Amaar telling Mrs. Wispinski that it was okay that her husband doesn’t go to church anymore.

    It made him look so “tolerant”.

    But would he have said the same to a member of his Mosque who’s husband wasn’t attending prayers at the mosque?

    Here is how the show can be hypocritical. We aren’t presented with the second situation. We are presented with the first. So, by not showing the second situation Amaar doesn’t have to come off as being “intolerant”. I am not saying he would be wrong to say that a Muslim man should attend prayers, but to many that would come off as being intolerant.

    It was like that episode with gay marriage. Yeah, you show Christians get all upset but, ole Amaar he just goes “well we don’t have to worry about this kind of stuff” or something to that effect and then the show doesn’t put any more burden upon him than that. Well what if that situation did arise? If it did Amaar would seem as intolerant as Joe and Baber did or of course Amaar would have to act in a way no Imam really would.

    So, it’s in controlling the situation that the show can be hypocritical. Replay that scene with Amaar out of town (say like in the beginning of season three) and Magee “looking after the people of the Mosque” and giving advice like that and I believe it is obvious how even Amaar would be upset at such advice.

    That is what I don’t like about how they portray Thorne. I know that in many ways Amaar would act just like him if the situation was reversed but of course the situation isn’t reversed so that is why it makes Thorne look bad.

  17. Sue

    I see this episode as strongly attacking the Mercy Anglicans.

    The show didn’t allow the Muslims to stay because the Anglicans were “good neighbours”.

    It had to be because they were racists.

  18. Steve

    Perhaps, but I believe it’s a valid attack on such people.

    Unfortunately there are people like Mrs. Wispinski out there. And I am glad that the show reveals them.

    In the end I believe she doesn’t go to church so much for “religious” reasons but because she’s a creature of habit, and “that’s what she has always done”.

    I would like to see Thorne make a real effort to bring in more Christians. But of course that runs the risk of having the show lose its focus.

    The problem I see is that what he needs to do to bring in more Christians will conflict with the Mosque. Yeah, one of the things evangelicals have done to bring in members is focus on this like “youth bands” and such. Yet with the Muslims in the way, there is no place for the youth bands to perform.

    To get more members though Thorne needs to look into what the evangelicals are doing right because they are where he is either going to gain or lose members from.

    He probably should see if he could get the church service on radio or at least streaming through the internet. That’s another thing I see from the churches that are successful these days. They use technology to spread their message.

  19. Paul

    With some denominations within some churches it does become “all about the pastor”. I guess that’s only natural because it is the pastor that gives the sermon. You don’t find that so much in Catholic Churches. I mean sure still there the Priest is the head of the show, but it doesn’t become so much about him than it does about the ceremony. Well that’s most Catholic churches.

    With evangelical churches it does tend to get to be about the Pastor. The Pastor almost becomes like a “rock star” in his or her (yeah depending upon the denominations) part of the world and people are drawn the church due to to personality of the pastor.

    Do we see this with Islam? Do Imam’s sometimes take on “rockstar like” status? Are they expected to? In Evangelical churches it seems like the Pastor is supposed to be the main draw.

  20. Steve

    I can only speak for the churches as that is what I have followed. It’s a fine line. I mean of course the head person at the church is going to have great influence over what the church is like.

    But you are talking about something more than that. I believe you are talking about when the church almost “becomes the pastor”. You mean when the church is built around the ego of the pastor.

    That does seem to be more of a trend at “evangelical” churches. Perhaps that’s because at the mainline churches there would be other people in a position to “tone down” any pastor who they felt “was allowing ego to get in the way of the Good News”.

    Also, with the evangelical churches often since they aren’t connected to anything beyond themselves as way of structure the only thing they have is the reputation of the pastor. Whereas with mainline churches you can go well that’s an Anglican church or that’s an Catholic church, with these churches the only way you would know what they were about would be to say “that’s the church where pastor so and so speaks…”

    Most of the churches I can think of it really is about the church and not the pastor. But I can think of several where it is the personality of the pastor that overwhelms everything else. That is of course true with all the TV Preachers (But if you think about it there’s far less of them around than there used to be) .

  21. Paul

    What I don’t like is that we are supposed to take as “faith” pardon the pun, that Amaar believes in what he believes in and became an Imam out of the purest of notions, yet with Thorne we have to look for all these alternative reasons he became a pastor.

    Sure people are motivated by various factors. No doubt Thorne likes to be the center of attention but can we also have it that he actually believes in what he believes as well?

    Amaar also wasn’t that excited about Mercy and saw it only as a stepping stone along the way to a “larger career”.

  22. Nahida

    Why is there talk of racists? Is it cause she kept referring to them as brown people? I don’t think she was being racist… she’s just a nice old lady and that’s how she indicates them. She’s not dehumanizing anyone.

  23. Steve

    Otherwise known as a “some of my best friends are..” racist.

  24. Steve

    We love our brownies…

    It makes us feel so cosmopolitan…

    The strange little outfits they wear are just so priceless…

    Nah, why would such comments make Mrs. Wispinski a racist?

  25. Steve

    Mrs. Wispinski talking on the phone to an out-of-town friend.

    Well our church have adopted our very own brown Muslims. Yeah, we let the worship or whatever they call it at our church. No, not the chapel but the building where we used to do the Christmas pageant when we were children. They put their little rugs on the floor and everything. It’s so precious.

    And their Imam, that’ Muslim speak for Priest, I have to say he has one fine butt on his brown bod that’ for sure.

    No, Marge I am not making this up. Mercy has become very Cosmopolitan in the last several years. It’s not like it was when you lived here.

    No, no turbans, but some of them wear cap like things and the women well they wear these scarfs. It’s the darnedest of things. It is just like out of Lawrence of Arabia. One of them is a doctor. Yeah, one of the women. She wears a scarf too. It’s just so precious.

    • MarriedaMuslim

      You’d be amazed at how accurate that is of a small town’s reaction to someone who is different, particularly of a different faith. You’d be surprised of what people say in small towns. My home town only has about 1000 people and two small churches, most of like Mercy’s church, with a lot of older people in the congregation. I grew up in one of the churches, and you’d be surprised and deeply offended of what people say about Arabs, Muslims, and in general of people who are different. The pastor at my home church reminds me a ton of Thorn, and trust me it’s not fun.

    • K.

      I think you’re over-analyzing what is meant to be a light comedy. Relax. just enjoy the show.

  26. Steve

    “Our Little Brown Muslims” was what she called them.

    She said they made her feel “cosmopolitan”.

    If that’s not “bric-a-brac” racism in action I don’t know what is.

  27. F.

    well i like the whole Rayyan part but one i don’t understand why and where did the first rev. go and i am honestly not liking this new rev. he is well quite irritating … well more than that but ya.

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